“The Start Of Something That Is Very Difficult To Turn Back”

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This piece was written by Walker Bragman.

After supporters of departing President Donald Trump stormed the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday in an attempt to halt the certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s victory, I spoke to Ruth Ben-Ghiat, a professor of history and Italian studies at New York University, an expert on fascism. 

Ben-Ghiat is the author of the new book, “Strongmen: From Mussolini to the Present,” which is described as “the first study to place President Donald Trump in the context of a century of authoritarian leaders that use a playbook of corruption, violence, propaganda, and machismo to stay in power.”

I asked the professor for her thoughts on this perilous moment in American history. What follows is a lightly-edited transcript of our conversation.

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Ting Barrow